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uREADERS COMMENTS
Taken from Various messages from Lord
Ronin in response the the letter from
Lee about Beginners guides
>>>SNIP>>>
Though that would be a good thing, for
the future. Such is not the impression
I gained from Lee's letter. Nor the
aspect that I feel on many lists &
chats.
You are the man that is ineterested in
the C=. For some unknown reason. You
have gained it from the attic, father,
uncle, grandfather, jumble sale etc.
Now what the smeg do you do with it?
You have seen things on the net & the
web with your newer platform. Heard
about the fantastic 8 bit system, But
what can you personally do with it?
Turn it on and see the blue screen.
The above is the level that I am
talking about. People that are entering
for the first time, like I the members
of the users group. Or returning after
a decade of messing with other
machines. As a few of The long distance
members of the users group are doing.
Bypass for the moment emulation.
I understand Lee's comments. As the
echo what I was saying in 93 when I
joined the local group. What does this
thing do? So I suggest that I start out
with that sentiment in mind, do a
series of rank first time, on the KB
turn it on and go from the blue screen
to ... sort of articles. Written for
the first timer, the absolute beginner
in mind. Questions on the use of
advanced basic, ML/ASSM, in-depth gear
head talks on the additives. That just
drives the newbie away. As it doesn't
make any sense. I know electronics from
the 60s and 70s. Not the new stuff. We
barely had transistors in the field. In
fact we jargoned the ICs of that time
as centipedes. Because of their size &
the legs. Trying to explain what you
do, based on your background, would be
a loss. As you would need to retro it
to when I last worked in the field.
Language here is the big part. When
dealing with the diverse people that
want to go to the C=. A word assoc-
iation that I give to illustrate this
point is the word "disk". First thing
that pops in my mind is a 33 1/3 LP or
for you in the U.K. an EP record. What
popped in your mind for that one word?
What I am suggesting is a series of
article, that can possible be compiled
as a separate disk. Just for the first
timers. Reason for this Is based on
what Lee stated and my own experiences.
On lists and especially in the #c64
friends chat. You want some beginner
info. Don't bother asking. People
there, well they have been in the
system for a couple of decades. They
forget what it was like looking at that
screen. Filled with wonder and
excitement. They had the resources,
today these are limited, and people
don't know where to find them. What I
think is needed is a primer for the
beginning C= user. Sine that is my
level of use. I offer to start it off.
When it goes past me. Others can access
the idea and add to it.
>>SNIP>>>
That returns me to Lee's letter. Really
I am seeing more and more from that
letter and my own experiences that
there is a need for an absolute
ground "0" introduction to the C=. I
mean how many people that score up the
C= have access to the users manual?
Most that I have bought for re-sale are
missing the manual. That is also the
first thing that my local U. G. members
use for programming & familiarity
lessons.
Saying that I am working on an idea for
a test on an example article. My hope
is that I can find a way to UL it to
you. If that works, the article will
be ion 80c Ascii. Translated by GEOS
Wrong is Write. I can then make files
of the original to send to you to pass
to Al in stock/standard PET in 40c.
Well it is an idea that needs help from
Rod & Galynne.
BCNU
Lord Ronin from Q-Link
Thanks to everyone who contacted me
about beginners guides it does seem
that many a real beginners guide I will
start a guide next month for the real
beginners the point of view that you
received a machine from a friend & have
never seen it before what can it do how
does it work etc
Thanks to everyone for their comments
Regards
Nigel
www.commodorefree.com
commodorefree@commodorefree.com